THE mood at the 11th annual Herzliya conference, where Israel's top policymakers come to debate strategy and diplomacy with invited international experts, is understandably twitchy. The events in Egypt hang over the conference like the threatening grey clouds. And yesterday those clouds unleashed a savage hailstorm, in the form of a stinging attack on the Netanyahu government by Tzipi Livni, the former foreign minister who now leads Israel's fragmented opposition. Nobody here claims that they saw the upheaval in Egypt coming, and few think that President Hosni Mubarak's regime will be replaced by one that Israel will find anything like as easy to live with.
Members of the government have taken a vow of silence not to comment, even off the record, on the unfolding situation in Egypt. But if you talk to people here privately, they suggest there are three possible scenarios. The first (intended to sound incredible) is that Israel's biggest neighbour will be transformed into a peaceable, pluralist democracy. The second is that Egypt will become something like Turkey, either with an army-dominated government as in the past or with a government a bit like the present one in Ankara that has a quite a strong Islamist flavour (either more or less intense, depending on the role within it of the Muslim Brotherhood). The third is that something similar to the Iranian revolution in 1979 is played out “with dramatic consequences”. If the third scenario were to be realised, the psychological impact on Israel will be such that any conceivable land-for-peace deal with the Palestinians will have to be accompanied by much more rigorous security arrangements on the ground. That said, the emergence of a moderately Islamist government that remained committed to peace with Israel could, after the initial shock, prove quite positive.
Perhaps inevitably, the turmoil in Egypt is only entrenching people here in their existing positions. The right is saying that it goes to show how quickly things can change in the unstable Arab world. Even if you could do a deal with the Palestinian president, Mahmoud Abbas, who anyway only speaks for half the Palestinians, how confident can you be that the peace would hold? For its part, the pro-peace camp says that the situation in Egypt means that there may be only a narrow window to get a settlement negotiated and that a new urgency is required. Realistically, few people here expect this Israeli government to do very much given Mr Netanyahu's dependence on the support of parties ideologically hostile to the whole idea of “land for peace”.
Yet neither the possibility of an Egyptian repudiation of the 32-year-old peace treaty with Israel nor the remote prospect of progress on the Palestinian front are the biggest security concerns among those at the Herzliya. Iran's nukes are still seen as the overwhelming existential threat to Israel, but the difficulties that the Iranian nuclear programme is thought to be having, thanks to tighter sanctions and the disruptive effects of the Stuxnet computer virus, are widely believed to have pushed the timeline for acquiring a bomb out to at least a couple of years from now. And that may be affecting the strategic calculus of at least some within the Iranian leadership.
A veteran of the Sharon and Olmert governments suggested to me that if only America was prepared to do as foreign minister Avigdor Lieberman suggested last year—and impose on Iran the kind of far-reaching sanctions that have applied to Cuba for half a century—the regime in Tehran, which is already under severe economic pressure, would not last for more than 12 months. The fact that the Castro brothers are still in power seems not to weaken the argument. Generally speaking, there's a view here that America needs to get more serious about regime change in Iran, as that may be the only thing that will lead to any alteration in the country's determination to press on with becoming a nuclear power able to bully the region. As usual, however, the details of how to do it are a bit sketchy.
Of more immediate concern even than the menace of a nuclear Iran is the growing threat from Lebanon since Hizbullah's bloodless coup last month. With up to 50,000 missiles of increasing accuracy and technological sophistication having been supplied by Syria and Iran, government sources here claim that the Shiite guerrilla force (which for most practical purposes should now be regarded as Lebanon's real army) has around four times the missile power it had when it unleashed 4,000 projectiles at Israel during the bloody five-week war in 2006. The Israeli military believes that Hizbullah has also learned lessons from the conflict in Gaza two years ago and that in any future confrontation IDF soldiers will sustain significantly more severe casualties.
Despite large investments in anti-missile defences with the help of the Americans, there are fears that Tel Aviv is still vulnerable to attack from salvoes of 200km-range Zelzal II guided missiles fired from south Lebanon and cruder devices, such as the 50km-range Fajr-5 missile, that could be launched by Hamas from Gaza in the event of hostilities. In a speech yesterday General Gabi Ashkenazi, the outgoing chief of the IDF general staff, warned that while Hizbullah and Hamas could not take territory, the battlefield had now shifted to the home front. No missile shield can be fully effective, especially when the missiles fired cost a tiny fraction of the interceptors used to stop them. Israel will still need superior intelligence and the ability to put boots on the ground to defend itself.
Israelis often feel the need to remind their critical European and American friends that they live in a pretty tough neighbourhood. Special criticism among most of the people you meet at Herzliya is reserved for Barack Obama. After the row over settlement building, which many Israelis thought was the wrong fight to pick, and what is seen here as shameless flipflopping by the administration over the fate of Mr Mubarak, the kindest description of the president you will hear in Herzliya is that he is naïve. Others are harsher, saying that he is a serial blunderer who is presiding over a rapid waning of American power and influence within the region. In particular, there is both puzzlement and anger over what is seen as the very public betrayal of Mr Mubarak, which, it is claimed, will cause every moderate Arab government to review its security relationship with America. As one source puts it: “They could have told him in private that his time was up, while sticking outwardly to a position of neutrality. But by saying they supported all the aims of the protesters and telling Mubarak he must go immediately, they took a very serious, very dangerous risk.”
Correction: An earlier version of this post got the names of its missile-defence systems in a twist. This has now been fixed.



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With no opposition party in egypt and the muslim brotherhood not enough strong at the moment to take down the army and rule, the islamist will definitely try to have a big influence on the next egyptian government until they can topple the latter or place their people at the key positions( Remember what happened in turkey). Obama is definitely naive to believe that Israel is the oppressor as the Hizbullah or iran have boost their missiles capacity and will not hesitate to use them at the right time. Without the israeli ally, both europe and the US will put themselves in grave danger as israel by defending itself against the muslims is also preventing the empowerment of the muslims terrorist who will not hesitate to attack Europe or USA afterwards. The enemy of my enemy is my friend
Israel is worried?
"1949 Hula massacre, South Lebanon The Israeli soldiers slaughtered innocent people as "punishment" for welcoming Palestinian refugees."
And other actions are hardly a way to make friends, as people tend to remember such things. Israel must first face the facts of its own beginnings in 1947 and actions since.
On Egypt "Parliamentary life began in Egypt as early as 1866, and since then several forms of national assemblies have been formed, dismantled and amended to reach the present-day form. Since 1866, Egypt witnessed seven parliamentary systems whose legislative and oversight competences varied and reflected the history of the Egyptian people's struggle to establish a society based on democracy and freedom. For more than 135 years of parliamentary history Egypt witnessed 32 Parliaments whose members ranged between 75 and 458 who contributed to writing Egypt's modern political social, economic and cultural history"
A country more than ready for Democracy.
If Egypt becomes a more or less democratic society that would be great news for Israel. Despots need fake issues to manipulate their populations. Hate of Israel has served that purpose masterfully, but really, arabs will not be blind for ever.
Israelis have often treated palestinians in a thoughtlessly cruel manner, but certainly far better than Arab leaders daily treat their own peoples.
A democratic Arab World would care more about the well being of their voters and less about a cause that as years pass starts to bear the marks of an obsession.
Let`s remember there are no Bolivian, Uruguayan, Equatorian, Colombian, Salvadoran, Mexican, American, Quebequois or Esquimo suicide yihaddists vowing eternal war against respectively Chile,Brazil,Brazil and Peru,Panama and USA, Honduras, the USA,Great Britain(the redcoats burnt the White House,oh how unforgivable!-they should have taken out the Capitol or at least IRS headquarters-), anglocanadians and finally the ancestors of Sarah Palin.
Probably one thing about the mandate should be pointed out - There was an indigenous Jewish community. Judging from memory from John B. Glubb's book "Britain and the Arabs" and Fromkin's "A Peace to End All Peace" the community represented about 6 percent of the population at the beginning of the mandate.
Also, there were several waves of immigration, beginning in the 1880s, and accelerated by the zionist movement as well as fear of anti-semitism in Europe in the interwar period. I believe these people largely secured their property through legitimate transactions.
Following WWII, there was persistent anti-semitism and violence (I believe in Poland for example). Also the continent was trashed, and in many cases with governments that probably were not too attractive (like Stalin's Soviet Union). So I suspect a good amount of illegal immigration would have continued into the Jewish communities in Palestine regardless of Mandate Policies or the wishes of the Arab majority (a la the Exodus incident).
Irreverent Comment wrote:
Feb 9th 2011 7:22 GMT
"I do not question the history or the sequence of events during the British mandate. I do, however, strongly oppose the notion that Israel imposed itself on her Arab neighbors in a land grab arrangement. Whereas the core of the Zionist movement may be said to have chosen to create the State of Israel regardless of the hostile environment, the mass immigration of Jews from Europe to the newly created State of Israel is due to a sigular factor: Jews being killed en masse and rather enthusiastically in about a dozen European countries in a span of just under ten years. Calling this a choice is a bit disingenuous. Comparing the hostility of Arab peasants grumbling about the distribution of water to the hostility of a German burger or a Polish pan sending a local Jewish merchant to the death camp and taking over the store, one may quite easily conclude that, for a European Jew in 1948, choosing Israel was a more rational choice in favor of an environment less prone to hostile action with likely lethal outcomes."
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Even if every word you say is true, how does that justify expropriating Palestinian land any more than, say, New Jersey?
Or, perhaps more to the point, Brandenburg or Silesia?
Were the Palestinians responsible for the rise of Hitler?
On the new Clausewitz blog in general, and this first blog on Israel in particular: A rather interesting treatment of the whole subject of fighting -- with quite a few quotes by Clausewitz -- is Sweet's The Principles of Fighting. The book shows how some of the "great men" of history attained their objects by fighting well, and the principles they followed. (Sweet also shows the other ways in which these men attained their objects -- to Clausewitz's point on a "trinity" of means.) The Israelis would do well, for instance, to strike Hizbollah's vital points (as they did Iran's with the Stuxnet virus) -- or, where none exist, to create them...
Cogently put, Yoni.
It may well be messy. And it may not be quick. But it certainly looks like a step in the right direction for Egypt -- one of politics without the need of war. Clausewitz would be pleased.
Is it just me or does the new blog have a sort of rambling feel to it?
Great blog, great name.
Contrary to many of my countrymen (I'm Israeli), I welcome what's happening in Egypt, and hope that it spreads to every Arab country.
I see no reason why the Arab world should be immune to the old adage "Democracies almost never war on each other". The best chance for peace and security for Israel is when all our neighbors live in societies that give them liberty, justice and the pursuit of happiness.
I understand the risks my fellow countrymen fear. I'm no woolly headed naive lefty. The evolution of a society into a democracy is not always pretty, and I expect that the process in the Arab wold will be messy at times, and that it could go horribly wrong and that it's possible (though in my opinion not particularly probable) we could end up with Egypt becoming another Iran or Pakistan.
However since the Egyptian people are going to fight for democracy whether Israel likes it or not, and since neither Israel nor any other country has the right or ability to try and prevent them from achieving this, the best thing we and the world can do is root on the sidelines for the people.
With a bit of luck Egypt, traditionally the Arab world's trend setter, could pave the way for a successful transformation to democracy throughout the region. A democratic Arab world, governed by legitimate rulers elected by their citizens will be a truly moderate Sunni block.
Contrary to views held by many patronizing westerners, the Arabs do not suffer from some kind of strange genetic deficiency that renders them incapable and undeserving of democracy. Democracy is not a privilege for us to bestow on, or deny other people. It's a right that (unfortunately) usually has to be fought for. What western society became a democracy without a hell of a lot of strife and struggle along the way? The evolution of democracy in the Middle East may be as messy as it was in Europe (just think of what that continent endured during the 19th and 20th centuries), though I personally give the Arabs, who have been civilized a lot longer than most European societies, enough credit to assume that they won't make quite such a hash out of it as Europe did (that would take real talent)
I therefore greet the Egyptians with the same greeting we used to use in the ANC when we were struggling for democracy - Amandla awethu (power to the people)
Israelis who speak of "a rapid waning of American power and influence within the region" might consider that US policy in the region has been largely tied to Israeli policy, and during the prior administration largely tied to the Israeli right wing politicians who are in government today. American aid--political, financial, and otherwise--has subsidized an Israeli nationalist agenda that squandered a post-Camp David period during which a peace deal with the Palestinians might also have been feasible. Instead, Israelis concentrated on creating 'facts on the ground' to forestall the possibility of certain sorts of agreements. It is difficult to say how this has benefitted the US. However, when other regional governments see the US allowing itself to be the catspaw of a fairly small country that repeatedly and openly acts against publicly declared US policy without consequence, it's not hard to understand why US influence with those other governments would diminish.
Admiring Clausewitz has always seemed illogical. His treatise was born from admiration of Napoleon's 'total' warfare by the state - something not seen since the age of the Spartans. However, despite his many victories, Napoleon ultimately lost. So have later dictators, all admirers of Clausewitz, who also mobilised the state for total war. That concept of warfare admired by Clausewitz is proven - thank goodness - to fail. Yet his work remains admired. This is strange. There are so many better thinkers on the subject. None of them come close to writing such opaque and impenetrable prose. He would be my last choice because I think his ideas have done much harm in the world. Far wiser and more sensible is the economical pithiness of Sun Tzu or the soul searching wisdom of Liddell Hart. But a Rose by any name... at least the topic is sweet! Thank you The Economist.
@Michael Dunne
I think that despite the appearances we actually agree on most points. I would argue that the US support for Israel was a realpolitik move. You mention oil, population, Suez, Soviet influence, etc. as the reasons for the US to get involved with Arab nations (+Turkey & Iran). All of these factors could be kept in check with Israel as the proxy for the US hawkish policies, along with intel gathering, while diplomatic and economic relations could be developed directly with other ME countries. You cannot use a carrot properly, if you don't have a stick.
My original comment had more to do with the fact that even now, while Tunisia and Egypt are in uprising, Iraq is still occupied after the removal of one of the most brutal dictators, Iran crashed the popular dissent after last year's elections, Syria is a hereditary dictatorship almost akin to N Korea... even now there are people who are foaming at the mouth at the mention of the State of Israel and claim that they care about fate of four million Palestinians, all the while remaining willfully ignorant to the much harsher and much more hopeless conditions and fate of the rest of the greater Middle East.
@Froy"
If GWB said that the sky is blue, would you argue against that?
Not only is settlement building the right fight for Obama to pick with Israel, it is probably the only issue with which he could leverage the peace process. A large section of the Israeli electorate opposes them. Europe opposes them. Moderate Palestinians see their termination as a precondition for negotiations. And since they are not fundamentally a matter of security, Obama can credibly insist on freezing them while supporting Israel's genuine security needs. There is no clear prescription to guide US diplomacy through the Egyptian crisis, but there is a consistent position to take on Israel: Full backing on security, with uncompromising opposition to settlements.
I believe the British were the first to propose the partition of Palestine, in the late 1930s (the Peel commission), following unrelenting and costly unrest in the land. I believe a white paper was released in 1939 (presumably prior to the onset of WWII).
Now it seems partisan activity resumed or flared up following the conclusion of WWII and prior to the British bugging out (thinking of the bombing of the King David Hotel, and what seemed like a three-way fight between Jewish settlers, Arabs and the British). So there wre all sorts of tensions to upend and agreement, inspire fear, bring out the worse in people, etc. regardless of background.
Otherwise, seems like the US pretty much supported Israel inspite of realpolitik interests (the oil was in predominantly Muslim countries, Egypt had the Suez, the populations of Egypt, CENTO countries, etc. were much larger and closer to the Soviets).
Other than the point about Israel being the only democracy in the region (which wasn't a certainty in the 1940s), there were few hard nose reasons for US suppport. Guilt over the holocaust may be one reason, emotional ties from immigrant communities (which influenced policies towards the Czechs and POles at the conclusion of WWI), could be another. However Israel's economy didn't really develop until much latter.
Also, strong US support wasn't a given. France was the largest arms supplier of Israel until the 1967 war; the US pressured Israel to withdraw from the Sinai following the Suez crisis, and wasn't announcing too many hard, supportive measures for Israel in 1967 (other than some symbolic convoy to Elat).
As for now, I am not sure Israel can expect the US to always do what it wants, like get more aggressive with Iran, or try to bolster the Mubarak regime, or overlook issues concerning settlements. Why?
- Success, in terms of peace between Israel and Egypt for 30 years, no more Soviets, and less sense of urgency amongst the American public
- Lack of appetite from Americans to get involved in further conflicts in the middle east - People are tired of the region, want to get out of Iraq and Afghanistan, and will require a lot of convincing to pick a fight with Iran.
- Possibly further down the road give, the public will change focus,; give more priority to domestic concerns, possibly become more isolationist and even more amenable to cutting aid to various countries (Egypt and Israel included, possibly even AfPak)
There are possibly more reasons. But the Israelis may want to cool it about casting aspersions on others as naive or bungling, and start reassessing their own circumstances and policies very closely. To paraphrase a saying from the south, when you point a finger at someone, several fingers are probably pointing back at you.
OneAegis says: "Isreal decided to carve out their homeland in the midst of hostile people."
That's an interesting way to look at it!
Happy to help. Sorry if I seemed a bit testy earlier; upon rereading the post most of the broader strategy discussion is spot on.
@TheWorldForgotten: You are right about the distinction between the Iron Dome and Arrow missile-defence systems. I've corrected the post accordingly. Thank you for pointing that out.
Irreverent Comment, what on Earth are you talking about?
"The mass immigration of Jews from Europe to the newly created State of Israel is due to a sigular factor: Jews being killed en masse and rather enthusiastically in about a dozen European countries in a span of just under ten years. Calling this a choice is a bit disingenuous."
The fact that Jews were massacred in Europe can in no way justify the colonization of Arab land by European Jews. Zionist leaders were guilty of having chosen someone else's land to realize their self-determination aspirations, and Western colonial powers were guilty of allowing this to happen. Arabs were never guilty of the Holocaust nor of the history of discrimination and persecution of Jews in Europe, so punishing them for Europe's crimes was absolutely unjust.
"The early years of the existence of the State of Israel showed that the Arab nations could easily tolerate the State of Israel"
Huh? All Arab neighboring Arab nations declared war on Israel the moment it was created. Arab rejection of the colonization of Palestine by foreign settlers was consistently expressed by all Arab nations and by Palestine's indigenous population long before Israel's birth. What native people on Earth has ever consented colonization of their ancestral homeland?
"What the neigboring powers cannot forgive Israel is her success in building a thirving democtratic society despite total lack of natural resources."
Uff, this is GWB's "they hate our freedoms" all over again. Wasn't it already in History's dustbin?
What Arab nations could not forgive is that Israel was created on Arab land at the expense of the native Arab population of the territory, who were unceremoniously expelled en masse from their homes, to establish a state for foreigners as a Western military outpost to destabilize the region and control its natural resources, and which keeps 4 million Arabs under military occupation deprived of the most basic rights and subject to constant abuse and brutalization. Why won't they just forgive that? Go figure.
Israel is right to be wary of Northern Africa's developments. It's abhorrent occupation regime could only survive with the connivence/assistance of its despotic neighbors. As democracy sweeps the region, it will become much harder for Israel to continue its ethnic cleansing policies unmolested. South Africa is finally knocking at Israel's door.
In another 50 years history books will say:
USA was a global power. Israel also was an idea which did not stand test of time.
@ Michael Dunne
I do not question the history or the sequence of events during the British mandate. I do, however, strongly oppose the notion that Israel imposed itself on her Arab neighbors in a land grab arrangement. Whereas the core of the Zionist movement may be said to have chosen to create the State of Israel regardless of the hostile environment, the mass immigration of Jews from Europe to the newly created State of Israel is due to a sigular factor: Jews being killed en masse and rather enthusiastically in about a dozen European countries in a span of just under ten years. Calling this a choice is a bit disingenuous. Comparing the hostility of Arab peasants grumbling about the distribution of water to the hostility of a German burger or a Polish pan sending a local Jewish merchant to the death camp and taking over the store, one may quite easily conclude that, for a European Jew in 1948, choosing Israel was a more rational choice in favor of an environment less prone to hostile action with likely lethal outcomes. (This is NOT to say that the Germans, the Polish, the French, etc. are inherently prone to anti-semitism. Rather, I am disspointed about the ease with which so many peoples succumbed to the anti-semitic hysteria in the "right" environment. I remain convinced that too many individuals have not quite fallen out of it yet.)
Furthermore, the early years of the existence of the State of Israel showed that the Arab nations could easily tolerate the State of Israel, despite many local outbreaks of violence, for as long as she was not a benchmark of civic and economic success in the Middle East. The US Aid has really very little to do with this. Many other countries have received a whole lot more in aid just to meet an utter demise in the end. The current fate of Mubarak and Egypt is the best example. What the neigboring powers cannot forgive Israel is her success in building a thirving democtratic society despite total lack of natural resources. This, like nothing else, brings to the fore the impotence of all these dynaties and "elected" dictators, who failed to achieve a fraction of the same for their respective nations. Fareed Zakaria described the causal relationship between natural resources and civic development in his book "The Future of Freedom". The more resources the nation has, the less her rulers are accountable to the populus. The Middle East seems to be lending rather generous empirical evidence to support this assertion. So, in the end all these nations surrounding Israel simply cannot forgive her for being ahead. It's easier to attack Israel than to fix problems at home. Look at Lebanon. As soon as the country achieved the superior standars of living and budding democratic government, it became a target of all kinds of extermist movements financed by the same dictatorial powers. Pity Lebanon now.