OR PERHAPS they can. A letter from 172 German-speaking economists published by the daily Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung (FAZ) lambasts the steps taken towards a banking union by euro-zone leaders at a summit last week in Brussels. It has unleashed a counterblast from government heavyweights and their economic advisers, leaving the public even more confused.
The euro-zone chiefs were far from agreeing on anything like a banking union—but let that pass. The 172 academics are indignant and warn of dire consequences for German citizens when they end up guaranteeing balance-sheets three times the size of all euro-zone public debt.
A banking union means assuming “collective liability for the debts of the banks in the euro-system” thunder the professors. “Dear fellow citizens, please relay these concerns to your constituent MPs; our elected representatives must be alerted to the dangers that are threatening our economy,” they say.
Europe’s leaders actually agreed on two things: to work towards joint bank supervision by the European Central Bank, and that euro-zone banks may be recapitalised directly by the European Financial Stability Facility and its future replacement, the European Stability Mechanism.
The most a banking union, if it indeed comes, is likely to guarantee is the deposits of private savers up to €100,000—no more than each EU member state already guarantees at a national level. True, even that would be a lot of cash if there were a systemic bank run, but avoiding one is precisely the goal of joint supervision.
The professors’ outburst suggests little readiness to get into detail. It appears more an attempt to fuel public fears that politicians are taking Germany down a slippery path towards assuming all euro-zone debt. Judging by the online comments they are striking a chord even with sophisticated FAZ readers. “At last, clear words from the professionals,” writes one.
Predictably, the government has come out fighting. Angela Merkel, the chancellor, urged people to study the actual decisions taken in Brussels. Wolfgang Schäuble, the finance minister, spluttered: “I find it outrageous. Economists should be more responsible in the way they handle the concept of bank debt.”
Only a handful of the signatories are much known outside their faculties, including Hans-Werner Sinn, head of the Institute for Economic Research in Munich, and Klaus Zimmermann, former head of the German Institute for Economic Research in Berlin.
A riposte from seven economic heavyweights (including Peter Bofinger and Bert Rürup, member and former member respectively of the Council of Economic Experts, which advises the government) has been posted on the website of the Handelsblatt, a business daily, under the headline “No bogeymen!” In these uncertain times, they write, “it cannot be the job of economists to unsettle the public even more with cliché-ridden assertions and questionable arguments.”
The 172 professors have certainly broken new ground. The most remarkable thing, says one FAZ reader, is that “so many economists could agree on a single text :-) – incredible.”



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Well It perhaps isn't a question of right or wrong, rather of when. I imagine we are seeing a recession of the likes in USA pre-Keynes era. They are deeper and longer. Monetary intervention in Europe is flaky and not 100% guaranteed in the eyes of the market. Fiscal Austerity is being used instead and this generally means a longer recession than Monetary stimulus packages that are backed by a central bank. Additionally with so many countries needing to make a comeback, we are betting on a system where "nationalism" doesn't sweep over and one country steps out of the Euro. I conceive that all of this uncertainty and chaos means markets wont be good for a while.
Greece has asked for 2 more years of time to make a come around. This could actually help with Italy, Spain, and other countries to perhaps make a turnaround. But it could also bring about a spread of the crisis to northern Europe. Perhaps Europe has lost all hope on Greece but are waiting for a good time to "kick" them out. Perhaps they are waiting on their own doom because the whole Euro system is a more Idealistic system than realistic. All in all this uncertainty looks as if it may continue for many more years.
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Giving money to the banks of the weak nations are of little help to them. In past they used it to finance public debt and higher real-estate prices. They are weak because imports exceed exports and the public sector is corrupt. If they are bankrupt they must go bankrupt default on debt or pay it off in script good only for local goods. There is no EU wide commercial law and courts for bankruptcy of local governments. It obvious needs that but for a commercial code to be acceptable one needs European wide election of high EU officials.
The weak nations obviously have tax non-exporting investments and give the money to those that increase exports. The strong nations in the EU will call that export subsidies. So the weak have to leave or suffer lots of pain being the colonies of the strong. The EU meetings on debt is a kangaroo court run by the strong with intermediate seconding the strong.
Germany should leave the euro and let its flaky friends in southern europe devalue perpetually like they always have.
Rather than the Greeks, the Germans are caught between the Rock and a hard place. Anyway Anglo and French anti-reunion politicians like Thatcher, Mitterand etc. can be comforted to know that the Germanic power cannot keep on rising inexorably.
Germany should leave the EU asap. A fiscal union absolutely leads to Germany paying the debts of the PIIGS. It means that the rest of the EU can vote to create a united states of Europe where the deadbeats vote to spend the money earned by those that actually work. By the way, I am an American, not a European.
"states of Europe where the deadbeats vote to spend the money earned by those that actually work"
So you have obviously done the homework to see how the Irish banking system collapsed?
You have also looked at the major foreign bondholders in Irish Banks?
You have also looked at the difference between sovern banking debt?
If you had you would relise how stupid your comment makes you look.
Go ahead ask me to prove it
"It means that the rest of the EU can vote to create a united states of Europe where the deadbeats vote to spend the money earned by those that actually work. By the way, I am an American, not a European."
Stick to balancing your check book. Global macroeconomic policy is not a topic for simpletons.
Fixing process of banking should start from lengthy prison terms and hefty fines for top brass.
Since nothing of sort is happening, it is not fixing, but plugging hole created by "banksters" with taxpayers money by their friends and accomplices - politicians.
Guaranteeing the all the debts of european banks, in no way follows from forming a banking union. Policy makers have said post crisis bondholders will be bailed in bank rescues. So collectively european governments can choose when and where to pick up the bill. That is not to say bondholders may be bailed in even sooner, if we are to believe mutterings from the ECB.
The article by the german professors is very reactionary.
A little joke for our Greek and Italian friends on this blog:
Angela Merkel arrives at Athens* Airport and at entry control she is run through routine questions:
"Name?": Angela Dorothea Merkel
"Occupation?" No, not yet.
*For Italians: replace with Rome
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And guess who won Wimbledon:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gp6QndcylC4&feature=relmfu
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All this ant-German nonsense is just mere envy and frustration.
The have-nots trying to blackmail the ones that know how to run their country. As for the now 245 economists who signed that memorandum - good to have at least a couple of people who love their country. And there is a lot to love.
They should have made her disrobe to check her for concealed weapons...laughs
Then perhaps a good hose down to rid her of lice...laughs
Perhaps next time, God willing.
Pull the cat's tail some more you say? Nah, we're done here. Consider yourself thoroughly schooled in the art of humiliation SinnFrei...laughs
Of course, they agree, their argument is nationalistic, and they are all German.
Now if they had tried to decide this question based on rationality and economics, that would have been different.
Thank you very much. I'm sure if one tries hard enough they could find 172 snails that all agree. What does it mean I hear lactose intolerant la vy asking? Why, just like your lengthy post la vy, absolutely nothing.
"Of course, they agree, ..., and they are all German."
Wow, what power of analysis. You must be the Einstein around here.
"based on rationality...".
Please define to rationality. For my money they are very rational. They try to prevent damage to their country. And handing out the credit card to Southern Europe is not rational. Just some nutjob believing in the impossible (aka reforms ever happining in the South) would do that.
Preventing only "damage" to one's country is not what this monetary union should be about. After all, we are all people, and we all have to eat. This has become most difficult for Greeks to do with this German "paymaster" straight-jacket on.
"Yes, but you signed the agreement." Who died and made you God? I wipe my a$$ with your sneaky little schister agreement.
"I wipe my a$$ with your sneaky little schister agreement."
And that's why one should never enter a union with people like you. Agreements need to be kept, otherwise all trust is gone.
And therefore the monitary union needs now to follow German rules. You guys simply don not get it down. Bitchy little loosers.
"Preventing only "damage" to one's country is not what this monetary union should be about."
Well, it is in case the monetary union includes untrustworthy countries like Greece or Italy. Ever wondered why we prefer helping Spain:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-18825285
That must really hurt....:)
Correction: do not get it done.
Ja, Ja, The heat of the moment.:)
And down you get of course everything...
Get a life will you? You have become like a satellite orbiting around my every thought. I should be flattered, but you appear to be unstable as well, so I'm not.
Mere retaliation. You try to annoy us, so I annoy you.
Seems to be working ....
Not really. I just enjoy toying with you like a cat plays with its prey.
Now, sing along with me Germany:
God Bless America
Land that I love
Stand beside her
and Guide her...
You know the words. Without her, due to all of your errors in judgement, you wouldn't even have a country.
Don't worry, we have our own song (with translation for you).
Enjoy.:)
Deutschlandlied
First stanza
Deutschland, Deutschland über alles,
Über alles in der Welt,
Wenn es stets zu Schutz und Trutze
Brüderlich zusammenhält.
Von der Maas bis an die Memel,
Von der Etsch bis an den Belt,
|: Deutschland, Deutschland über alles,
Über alles in der Welt! :|
Germany, Germany above everything,
Above everything in the world,
When, for protection and defence, it always
takes a brotherly stand together.
From the Meuse to the Memel,
From the Adige to the Belt,
|: Germany, Germany above everything,
Above everything in the world! :|
Second stanza
Deutsche Frauen, deutsche Treue,
Deutscher Wein und deutscher Sang
Sollen in der Welt behalten
Ihren alten schönen Klang,
Uns zu edler Tat begeistern
Unser ganzes Leben lang.
|: Deutsche Frauen, deutsche Treue,
Deutscher Wein und deutscher Sang! :|
German women, German loyalty,
German wine and German song
Shall retain in the world
Their old beautiful chime
And inspire us to noble deeds
During all of our life.
|: German women, German loyalty,
German wine and German song! :|
Third stanza
(Germany's current National Anthem)
Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit
Für das deutsche Vaterland!
Danach lasst uns alle streben
Brüderlich mit Herz und Hand!
Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit
Sind des Glückes Unterpfand;
|: Blüh' im Glanze dieses Glückes,
Blühe, deutsches Vaterland! :|
Unity and justice and freedom
For the German fatherland!
For these let us all strive
Brotherly with heart and hand!
Unity and justice and freedom
Are the pledge of fortune;
|: Flourish in this fortune's blessing,
Flourish, German fatherland! :|
I must run and tell my wife. She's German you know?
Ja, Ja, ab in Mutti's Schoß, da kannste Dich dann ausheulen.
"She's German you know?" And I guess she's wearing the trousers + boots at home. All black leather of course.:)
Let me check. Hold on. Nope, that would be me. I'm an American don't forget. A lot of your gals hooked up with American GIs don't forget. Women are smart that way. Anything to get out of a bind.
Do you think that I would marry a bossy German woman? I would have to break her over my knee, and send her home crying to her mother...laughs
Don't have that problem. My wife's an angel. Knew it when I met her too.
Sounds to me like you been paying for some spankings there old man, black leather boots and all, eh?...laughs
Save your money. I'll give you a verbal spanking here for free..laughs
Listen to 172 German prof. or a bunch of politicians who hire "economic advisers" based on who they are long time friends with, from countries that aren't German. I wonder...
Perhaps a better question to ask these "social scientists" would have been: What is your favorite color?
Mine's blue, because it is the bluest of all colors. Can we find 172 German social scientists out there who like the color blue?
At least we have more than 172 economists. Please start listing your world famous Greek economists. Can't wait until Greece is gone. The world (aka EU/EZ) will be a better place.
Me too! Perhaps we can send them all to a concentration camp or something. After all, it's not as if Greeks are a protected class or something?
Shhh, don't speak of the atrocities committed against mankind, and it is as if it never happened! Secrecy is key you know.
In all honesty, I do not care one bit for Greece. One of the least interesting places on earth. You had your peak more than 2000 years ago. The Osman occupation really was not to your benefit.
But wait, to clear your debt we should sell Greece to Turkey. They want to rebuld their empire anyhow. 1st step to go.
Recep, we have some cheap land to sell....:)
BTW, for you it will be of course "Vernichtungslager", not only concentration camp.:)
Nope, got that backwards. Germany is an American satellite. I see you're forgetful as well? Having trouble with the Alzheimer's eh? The keys to your car in the refrigerator next to the butter where you left them...laughs.
My country America is the world's leader. Your country Germany lost the war, remember? Sure you do. Think hard and remember the shame.
Easy now, easy. You're blood pressure meds are...Where did you leave them?...laughs
Ahh, sinful fried foods, but you digress, and have entered the realm where you are most comfortable. That would be stupidity of course.
Now, repeat after me Sigmund Fraud: "Stupidity is my realm. I worship at the alter of stupidity."
Once again louder! That's a good old fart stain. Now, go easy on the milk. You'll wake the cat again...laughs
By the bye, that's Ottoman moron. Perhaps with your adult onset dementia and all, you are confusing them with the Osmonds. I too love music. Perhaps when you're done smearing your feces on your computer screen, you and la vy can share a quart of milk together, and toot us a tune...laughs
PS - Don't forget to leave your hat on the curb. I'm in a generous mood, and if the song is to my liking, I might even throw you two lactose intolerant musicians a tip.
I have handed out the the cloths pins to quell the stench. You may begin Maestros!
PS - Best to give up the argumentative ship though, as it appears that in me, you have met your GREEK master.
La vy I don't even read anymore. Who has time for such nonsense.
Wow, you spotted a typo. Now try to answer like an adult (i.e., without using cuss words). There is still hope for you ....
English is your second language. It's my first. One last thought to get this train back on the tracks where it belongs.
Germany cannot manufacture Mercedes with the same currency that Greece uses to sell sun and agricultural products without the monetary union being a transfer union.
Germany does not want, and will not allow a transfer union, therefore this whole ill advised monetary union must come apart now.
I really do not understand what you are all writing about. the core of the problem is as I have stated above, and the solution is either complete integration or the periphery nations must return to their sovereign currencies.
Not to worry. Tsipras will take it all apart soon enough. See, this is how I know Europe is a mess. Here in America, I'm what is known as a Centrist, and yet, the only one who makes any sense at all in Greece is a lefty.
So, I rightfully conclude that your monetary union is doomed beyond redemption. Remember who told you first.
I'm an American. Never plan to live and work in Greece, but would love to visit more often, when the exchange rate improves. So, your death is my life my friend. Life can be cruel that way sometimes.
1) "either complete integration" It will not be integration, the weaker states will be absorbed and transformed into some useful protectorates. We have experience.:)
2) "I'm an American.." So why are you so excited about the state of the Euro and EU? Doesn't your country have enough issues to keep you busy discussing? No US blog for you to harass? Already banned for live? Wouldn't be surprised.
"My country America is the world's leader."
Living in the past? Your country is owned by China.
And you acchieved this all by yourself. Outsourcing jobs to China, Building up China with technology transfer and now complaining that the uniforms of the US Olympic Team are manufactured in China. Well yeah, world's leader ... not for long...
"...remember the shame." What shame? Loosing again the Russian?
I can live with that. We killed a sh*t load of them but it in the end they were simply too many of them.
Don't get all to emotional about D-Day. That was a minor event compared to what happened on the Eastern Front. Say "спасибо" to Russia.
"My country America is the world's leader."
Living in the past? Your country is owned by China.
And you acchieved this all by yourself. Outsourcing jobs to China, Building up China with technology transfer and now complaining that the uniforms of the US Olympic Team are manufactured in China. Well yeah, world's leader ... not for long...
"...remember the shame." What shame? Loosing against the Russians? I can live with that. We killed a sh*t load of them but it in the end they were simply too many of them.
Don't get all to emotional about D-Day. That was a minor event compared to what happened on the Eastern Front. Say "спасибо" to Russia.
1. It will be integration, or the markets will continue their onslaught, making it impossible for member nations to borrow, and grass roots political movements in each of these nations will pull this whole ill advised monetary union apart. The markets rule. Germany cannot do as she pleases. The price for starting and losing two wars will never be paid in full.
2. Suffice it to say I have many interest, and leave it at that Siegfried.
China is the worker Bee. America is the Bee Keeper. The cart doesn't push the horse. The horse pulls the cart. We borrow and spend. They work themselves to death.
Check the per capita income in each of out nations, and then rethink this inside-out conclusion of yours. You want it to be so, because you're jealous. Yes I know, but that will not make it so.
I think our Federal Reserve here is also holding a lot of the German gold as well. Germany knows that she must do as America tells her to do, or that gold just might find a new owner.
What are you going to do? Come after us with sling shots? You're all pacifists now. Don't forget...laughs
"...remember the shame." What shame? Loosing against the Russians? I can live with that. We killed a sh*t load of them but it in the end they were simply too many of them.
The problem with the German character is you are too obedient. This is very good when selecting a wife, assuming the husband isn't a psychopath. However, you had no business thinking you could win a war on so many fronts.
Everything in life is a negotiation. Poland and Austria, and kaput. The allies would have let it be at that, but no, German arrogance was your undoing! What business did you idiots have going into Russia? My German father in-law survived it by the way.
Take a page from Alexander. Even if you conquer, you have to be able to rule. Honey is sweeter then vinegar my friend. Tax breaks and free food for all, and see how easy it is to rule...laughs
There are always limits of course. Only an idiot misses the ques. Hitler was a fool of course, but what possessed you all to follow him without question. A fatal flaw in the German character. I end as I started. Too obedient.
Yawn. Just 2 names: Bush and soon Romney....
So much for the worth of your opinion on our national character.
Never argue with an id*ot. He will lower you to his level and beat you with experience. Nuff said.
"Yawn. Just 2 names: Bush and soon Romney....
So much for the worth of your opinion on our national character."
You lost me there Siegfried and Roy. Time to wrap it up. We're short one intellect, and that would be you.
"Never argue with an id*ot. He will lower you to his level and beat you with experience. Nuff said."
I like it. It's funny, but I have to add that you teach best what you need to learn most.
The Economist suggest the agreement is about limited deposit guarantee, which could prevent a bank run and, in the worst case scenario, effectively bailout smaller (<100'000 euro) private deposit holders. This would appear quite reasonable and not much different from what happens in US or Canada.
In such set up, should one of Spanish bank suffer a default, bond holders and equity investors would still be fully exposed to the loses.
Yet the letter in FAZ seem to suggest that the deal would bail out banks and institutional investors and even goes further to directly invoke boogie men of Wall Street and City of London. That does not seem to square out with Economist's interpretation.
Is the Economist interpretation of the deal incorrect or is the letter (intentionally) overstating the problem?
I think that the 172 experts are actually correct this time.
The bigger they are, the harder they fall.
Better to have competition and the weak fail, as Adam Smith would agree.
Are you sure that Adam Smith would agree with your faulty conclusion here? I think not.
A previous poster, @CanadizedSilesian (or MilanizedSicilian or whatever he wants to be) wrote against your line of thinking:
“We know from recent experience that a single small country like Finland or Slovakia can effectively block Eurozone changes, so it is difficult to see presented concern Eurozone outvoting Germany as genuine, especially coming from well read authors. It is fear-mongering, no other way to put it.”
The possibility to "block" changes only exist as long as countries are required to sign a specific treaty or need their national parliamentary approval for specific treaty-amendments.
Once a process is started by agreement, there are no adequate checks and balances any more to keep member countries and EU institutions from violating these agreements, because neither the Eurozone nor the European Union are electorate-controlled democratic entities.
Thus, it was easily possible that all previous measures to safeguard the euro against plunder, especially its supposedly most powerful tool, the Maastricht treaty’s convergence criteria, could be systematically circumvented by the actors? –
This was possible because by "structural majority decision" the fox was conveniently put in charge of the hen-house, where majority vote counts and veto-right doesn't exist any more.
To assure his election as EU Commissioner in 1999, Romano Prodi in 1998 - then still Italy’s PM - lobbied among like-minded EU leaders, who were against the German-imposed Maastricht debt controls, to allow Italy into the euro-organization . . . in spite of the fact that his country was, with a debt/GDP ratio of 115%, as far off from fulfilling the Maastricht convergence requirements as could possibly be.
In return for this favor, Prodi promised - once being EU Commissioner in charge of controlling the compliance with the convergence criteria - to be ‘lenient’ to others as well. Exactly this then happened when Greece, also a grave violator of the convergence criteria, was admitted two years later.
With these two extreme cases of violation already at their admission date, the most important convergence prerequisite for euro membership was more or less "morally eliminated". It had led to a situation whereby a country, once accepted as a member of the Euro club, no longer felt obliged to comply with its once “sacrosanct principles”.
After the admission of these two grave convergence violators, no other member could -morally justified- be “forced” to abide by the Maastricht criteria. As a result, by 2003 the bursting of the Maastricht-Dam was complete: France, Italy, Germany, Portugal, and Greece had all violated the SGP (as well as the Netherlands by 2004). Thus, the Maastricht convergence criteria had become maculation by the end of 2003.
The euro organization’s gravest deficit lies in the fact that it has no exclusive, democratically legitimatized political leadership despite that a common currency, constituted as an equal-right-membership, is already the most intense form of political commonness any entity of the European Union can boast. This deficit now proves to be the common currency’s tragedy and possible demise.
In the absence of a better alternative, the decision-making body of the ECB now will be entrusted with the ‘leadership’ and supervision of the euro organization. All members of the Governing Council of the ECB are “appointed” (not elected) by the European Council, and they’re acting by a qualified majority without individual veto rights.
Question to all defamers of the 172 professors' open letter appeal: What kind of democratic political legitimacy does the ECB Governing Council have - including the bank’s President Mario Draghi, the euro organization’s most powerful individual - except for being “appointed” by exactly this “structural majority” of unelected ECB governors the open letter of the professors writes about?
When German Bundesbank President Axel Weber turned down the ECB seat before Mario Draghi took it, he did it, as he hinted, for exactly the reason the professors mentioned in their appeal: A “structural majority” of the ECB governors would force him to answer for "majority decisions" of the Governing Council which were not his own and which he didn’t share.
Exactly this is the "structural majority rule", whereby bankrupt Greece and ailing Italy have the same voting strength as Germany, whose citizens’ savings and future taxes are jeopardized by the dictatorship of a profligate “structural majority”.
Indeed it appears that the paragraph of the professors’ appeal, which suggests that whatever bank reserve rules will be set initially by the ECB, it will be diluted anytime, if needed, by a majority of Eurozone states (the professors’ “structural majority) outvoting the German (and the Dutch, and the Finnish and the Austrian) position in order to be able reaching deep into the pockets of the latter.
The 172 German professors are not only “not wrong”; they’re 100 percent right!
Help! I drank a glass of warm milk, and I can't wake up...laughs
Sycorax
"you omit the centre piece here - Napoleons defeat in Russia."
It appears Germany has at least one thing in common with France.
"you omit the centre piece here - Napoleons defeat in Russia."
It appears Germany has at least one thing in common with France.
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But this would be the only thing Germany has in common with France:)
But as everybody knows Russia is invincible and each attack against Big Russia will fail and mean suicide for any aggressor.
So it is good for Germany having such a big ally and real friend like Russia.
Unfortunately the Russian troops left Germany.
Just citing a person you might know. And who remembered his history.
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Charles de Gaulle: "Ah, Stalingrad! C'est tout de même un peuple formidable, un très grand peuple."
AW: "Ah, oui, les Russes..."
Charles deGaulle: "Mais non. Je ne parle pas des Russes, je parle des Allemands. Tout de même, avoir poussé jusque là!"
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Besides that, one might come up with one or two other items. Need to think about it......
I am happy this Bastards disapeared, After geting a lot of money and nice Hauses from German taxpayers. Our Fellow Europeansh, Greece, spain, italy are in trouble now.. It is our duty to help good friends in Hardship. They will do the same for us. When we face hardtimes.
Quite interesting question:
Who ever of the European nations ever was lifting only a finger for Germany?
The French who were invading Germany by violating the women and girls and who let starve the POW's in their coal mines?
The British perhaps who were bombing and wiping out Germans towns and cities full of civilians back to the Stone Age?
The British and French who were just about declaring war to Germany at the time of re-unification?
The Americans and British that let crave our wounded soldiers like useless inferior beasts in Afghanistan so that Germany needs help by the Russian allies?
The life of a German does not count for a British or an American.
Is this that kind of alliance and mutual help you mean?
Quite easy the whole reactions:)
If there will happen anything anywhere on this planet it is a reflex regarding the Germans guilty.
Germans never do have any rights even to justify anything.
Germans are living in an international system of Apartheid which has been created by the Western world for them.
This system of Apartheid is called NATO and EU.
So it makes no sense to explain anything to the so-called Western "partners" because it is a very long tradition treating Germans like rightless underdogs.
Germany should turn its back to the West and look for real friends and real partners which are only in the East of Germany.
Russia and China are waiting and will welcome Germany.
The unification of Europe is nothing but a huge failure.
As the most hated country with the most hated people in Western world, Germany has no choice at all.
It is dangerous and a big risk being German in actual Europe.
The huge and wide anti-German campaigns in Western countries have been a big success without any doubt.
We will see how many Germans will risk their lives by visiting Britain or America again.
I think the British will have their Olympic games with very few German visitors.
Regardless of what the good Profs say, most Anglo powers and France are finally relieved that the Germans were finally contained by their Euro folly.
"It appears more an attempt to fuel public fears that politicians are taking Germany down a slippery path towards assuming all euro-zone debt."
Indeed it appears to be the case, the second paragraph of the letter suggest that whatever bank reserve rules will be set, the position will diluted by other Eurozone states outvoting Germany position. We know from recent experience that a single small country like Finland or Slovakia can effectively block Eurozone changes, so it is difficult to see presented concern Eurozone outvoting Germany as genuine, especially coming from well read authors. It is fear-mongering, no other way to put it. The letter is more of the futuristic speculation and political statement rather then an economic argument one would expect from the economists.
The Euro histeria in Germany runs high, with some (educated) Germans likening Euro to Versailles Treaty 2.0, intended to constraint and penalize Germany. While this does seem funny viewed from across the pond, Euro paranoia is not new in Europe and run its full course through Poland (Kaczynski), Czech Republic (Klaus) and recently Hungary and Romania. In each country European integration is somehow bound to bring repetition of a past national tragedy and each European country has one. (Ironically integration was meant to prevent the next one.)
What is striking here is the participation of the academia, in all the other countries the Euro phobia found followers in rural, socially conservative population (think Lexington's Appalachian article). This is sad news for Europe and for Germany. German speaking zone is definitely not coming back as the area of intellectual ferment that brought us modern physics, television, car, and the foundations of todays medicine. Careful conformity is the norm. I personally gave up on sending my kids to German language school a while ago, as I do not see German culture to ever coming back to what it was in my grandparents generation. Not sure if Mandarin is the alternative, but it definitely looks brighter.
Mr. Sinn & Co. provided huge academical materials and facts beforehand. So there was no need write down all facts already issued once again. All (facts) is known.
This was an appeal - no academical analyse and it was never intended to such one.
And I personally see the Anglo-Saxon world not in any more favorable position.
Canada is much too small to be anytime a big player.
And the US and the UK have fallen behind and will both heavily struggle with their burdens, so the future is Asia. And of that fact the European countries must be aware of as well. But they are not. It would need action to make those countries fit for the competition against Asia. But instead aiming that goal they are focusing on money.
Should there be any chance in the near future that those countries regain their competition against Asia - they must act now - which mean yesterday not tomorrow.
But the lack of competitiveness is dramatic and the unwilling to change anything is much great. But those countries like more talking about more transfers instead of how do they come back on track. And exactly this is untold. But the euro crises is all about (lost) competition. Combined with a banking sector which run out of national control and the countries run short of money because their banks are much too big for their economies.
My fear is that Europe is unable to catch up and will, therefore, miss the boat because the governments have not focused on crucial and essential objectives.
Hopefully, this was not once again "caustic".
It will be impossible for Germany to play with China on level playing. Free Trade is a fiction if your trading partner is several times larger then you, we see it in Canada US trade all the time.
It is easy to feel proud standing next to Italy, but the reality is that Germany's population is smaller then Guandong province alone. City of Shanghai is has larger population then state of Bavaria and whole Bavaria's economy (BASF, BMW included) is only 2 times larger then Shanghai economy.
On few years ago, US driven by mix fear and national pride decided that it does not need help of its alies to guarantee its physical security. "We do not need them" was a prevailing attitude, fuelled by the media. We all know it turned to be very impractical, even if theoretically correct.
Today Germans fail to the same trap of hubris and national pride tempted to secure its economic security by acting unilaterally. It might look like Germany can play on even playing field with China, and sure does feel good for media to repeat this. Unfortunately the lesson of US unilateralism is bound to repeat itself. My point is that it is a function of elite and academia to challenge short term thinking, end attempt to explain complexity of the situation, this is why I see this letter as colossal failure. The letter looks like march of the lemmings.
Unless Europeans work together as ONE they will be run over by China and not even know what hit them. Germany's industrial exports to China will not last forever, Chinese will learn how to build precise CNC machines and maglev trains the same way they learned to build iPads and satellites. Ironically Chinese chief strengths seem to be patience and cooperative humility.
Hello from Trieste! (I should mention I am a big fan of Katowice).
Feeling proud standing next to Italy? Perhaps next to Berlusconi's Italy: but for years we on the Left attempted to raise the debate on the damage Silvio was doing to democracy and the economy also at a continental-wide level - and for years Merkel and her Christian Democrats were protecting and supporting Silvio (they wanted his bloc of votes within the Parliament in Strasbourg).
And who are you to knock us? ;-)
FIAT is both the largest private employer in Slask (sorry, no Polish keyboard) and the number one car company in Canada (while Marchionne is a Canadian citizen). What do you think would have happened to the Ontarian economy without FIAT to step in and rescue Chrysler? Let me give you a hint: Ontario produces more cars than Michigan - and has become the true production centre of the American auto industry.
The Germans are trying to do to southern Europe what Daimler did to Chrysler over a decade. We made the mistake of considering them friends and allies - that will not happen again. In the meantime, I see that almost a majority of Poles have fallen for the "Germany is a friend and great efficient manufacturer" propaganda.
Germany has used its apparently-serious political credibility to boost artificially its exports (bribes to corruptible Greek ministers, anyone?)
You wouldn't guess from "serious Angela" as opposed to "clownish Silvio" that Italians are the number one foreign holders of German bunds, would you?
Time to call the German bluff. Amidst their arrogance and hypocrisy of the last 3 years they have shown us their true colours.
This is no longer West Germany - "good Europeans" and not "bad Germans"... this is newly-reunified Germany which is showing us its ugly Nationalist face.
MILOVAN MAKES UP A STORY (#3)
"What do you think would have happened to the Ontarian economy without FIAT to step in and rescue Chrysler?"
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And there we go # 3 - there's NOTHING factually correct in your statement.
Chrysler was not rescued by FIAT (which simply bought a share on the cheap), but by the American taxpayer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler_Chapter_11_reorganization
On a sidenote: If FIAT's management does as lousy a job at Chrysler as they have elsewhere, Chrysler's days are numbered.
It must be hard being you.
(To be ctd. - but not today.)
Why do you continue spreading lies? And citing sources that directly refute your claims? Do you even read your "sources"?
The Obama Auto Team was not at all convinced of the possibility or desirability of saving Chrysler. Rattner made it perfectly clear that without FIAT stepping in (and no other automaker was willing, having ALL been solicited by Chrysler) they preferred to let Chrysler be dismantled rather than lending out taxpayer monies.
Monies that were lent out at an average 14% interest and repaid early, btw.
On which planet do you live? Check serious discussions/paper on car manufacturer in Europe, which all face huge global excess capacities:
1) The French and Italian companies are under severe attack and have no concept, they loose against Asian companies and it is only a matter of time they will reduce worker numbers even more. Here their reliance on domestic markets is a disadvantage if the economy is in recession.
2) Opel (Germany) will probably die, esp. when GM does not allow them acces to the globalmarket, which worked for perfectly for VW.
3) Daimler and BMW have as long people by cars with combustion engines no problem, they could save a lot of maoney by pooling some of their R/D, their worst enemy is Audi which sells R/D within the VW group and is very profitable.
4) VW is the only European car maker middle class cars with a useful large scale programme to streamline R/D and production and get much more out of their resources. Here having Audi and Porsche inhouse helps a lot.
Please update your outdated views of the Italian company FIAT.
Ever since FIAT successfully blocked Ford from buying Alfa Romeo in 1986, with its political pressure, the ridiculous idea that Italy is a closed market or foreign manufacturers are not wanted here has been spread around.
Italy also had for forty years - two twenty-year periods from 1950 to 1990 - an reciprocal agreement with Japan to limit Japanese imports to 2% of the Italian market, and Italian imports to Japan. This agreement was ORIGINALLY REQUESTED BY THE JAPANESE because they feared competition from small FIATs in 1950. (We can say that the Japanese protectionist policy was a success, because by the end of the agreements, the tables had definitely been turned).
FIAT was never dependent solely upon the home market. They are much older than VW (1899) and were producing cars in the United States and Russia before World War I.
Many or most of their overseas activities were shut down during the Great Depression or during World War II. But by the 1970's the company had re-built its international presence and was producing cars in the Soviet Union, Poland, Turkey, Argentina, Brazil, Egypt, etc.
Today they sell more cars in Brazil than in Italy, and with the acquisition of Chrysler (60% at the moment) more cars in the US than in Italy.
VW sold 8.2 million cars last year worldwide, of which 1.1 million were in Germany (13.4%) and 1.7 million in Europe (21%).
FIAT-Chrysler sold 4 million cars last year worldwide, of which 520,000 in Italy (13%) and 950,000 in Europe (24%).
In other words the percentages of dependency on home/European markets are about the same. FIAT is stronger in North America - VW is stronger in Asia.
We live in 2012 and it is a save prediction that both, French and Italian carmakers will reduce their number of workers in the next 5 years and will loose market shares, here the Germans are to the competitors but Asian companies. In France the problem is already in the newsheadlines as Hollande tries to save jobs. The German domestic market is in a much better shape than the Italian so we will see very likely a drop of sales in Italy.
Wether a company is old or not does not make an argument, question is how companies react to changing conditions, here VW plays in a different league compared to Fiat, Opel and some of the French carmakers. Without a claer programme the acquisition of Crysler is not a bonus but a burden, see Daimler. The crucial difference is Daimler has money to burn, Fiat not.
"FIAT-Chrysler sold 4 million cars last year worldwide (...)"
- There is no such thing as "FIAT-Chrysler" as yet. Fiat is Chrysler's majority shareholder, but Chrysler is not incoporated (that would be posible with over 75.1% ownership) into FIAT and still run as an independent company.
"FIAT is stronger in North America - VW is stronger in Asia."
- Fiat is barely present at all in Asia.
Tell me, why is Italy aparently so unattractive as a production site that only about 800,000 cars are produced there annually, 1/3 of the Spanish production? Is the Vatican again behind this or the Germans, your two favorite scapegoats? LOL
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automotive_industry
It seems to me that rather than securing Italian jobs, Marchionne is using the parternship with Chrysler to ship jobs out of Italy.
Semantics. Chrysler profits are already integrated (60%) into FIAT profits.
No, not semantics. Law.
Chrysler is still an independent company for now, and not part of FIAT.
If all Vokswagen majority holdings (Porsche, MAN, Scania) were already consolidated into Volkwagen AG, its turnover would jump from 160 bn euro to nearly 190 bn euro, making it the world's largest car company already now (which will now have to wait another 3-5 yrs).
FIAT is sitting atop €27 billion in cash. What money do they not have?
The crucial difference is that Daimler did a lousy job of managing Chrysler and FIAT is doing an excellent job - not at all a burden. Gross operating profit at the American subsidiary is estimated at over $3 billion this year. And, FIAT is currently spending over €1 billion to re-build its historic factory in Turin (Mirafiori): half the money is coming from Chrysler.
VW does not play in a different league from GM/Opel - they are in the same league. Also, Renault/Nissan is also in that same league.
VW is aiming to achieve 10 million cars sold by 2018; FIAT-Chrysler is aiming to achieve 6 million cars sold by 2014. If all goes well, FIAT hopes to be in the league with VW by 2018 (8 million cars sold?)
You are being silly. MAN and Scania do not produce autos - and Porsche's absolute numbers are quite small.
Chrysler will in all likelihood continue to exist as a separate subsidiary. That changes nothing regarding the fact that it is a FIAT company. Nor that FIAT has an option to buy 100% of the company over the next three years. Nor that FIAT is running Chrysler.
Not all subsidiaries are 100% controlled, Josh. VW originally invested in SEAT through Audi - and only acquired 100% control in 1990.
Spain had no "national champion" - so every other auto manufacturer moved in decades ago.
To answer your question:
Taxes, taxes, taxes. And, the sale of Alfa Romeo to FIAT instead of Ford in 1986 was a huge mistake that sent the wrong signals to other auto manufacturers (namely, that Italy was some sort of closed market).
No, jobs are not being shipped out of Italy to Chrysler. The only jobs shipped out so far have been to Serbia. And, Chrysler is paying for half of the bill to renovate the Mirafiori plant in Turin.
I was talking revenue, not produced units. Porsche actually isn't that small in terms of revenue: nearly 11 bn Euro in 2011, or 1/3 of FIAT's (and Porsche's profits were higher: 2 vs 1.5 bn for FIAT).
So it was neither the Vatican's fault nor the Germans', eh? That's good to know. LOL
And on that note.
"The crucial difference is that Daimler did a lousy job of managing Chrysler and FIAT is doing an excellent job (...)"
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No. The crucial difference is that thanks to "chapter 11" reorganization, Chrysler has gotten rid of most of its debt owed to private creditors, which had tied the company down since the late 1970s.
It's too early to tell whether or not FIAT is doing a good job.
According to good analysts, Opel and GM have no long term strategy that gives hope to compete with the Japanese carmakers and VW, therefore, they are in danger to loose market shares as huge global excess capacities in production exist. Opel's Management problems are obvious and GM gives no useful alternatives, not good.
And please check what each company actually earns per car, here Audi is (save Porsche)leading, that is for good analysts and for Audi's competitors like Daimler and BMW no surprise, reason is that they a part of VW. And according to the same guys, VW is the only car maker of middle class cars in Europe which can expect to compete with the Japanese, they are sucessfully integrating Seat and Skoda in the middle class section and generate, using their unique situation with having high tech premium car makers in house, huge gains by using R/D synenergies, i.e. they compensate with a different strategic approach for the higher production efficency of the Japanese competitors. What is Fiat's strategy?
Re Burning money
Daimler has no problem to sell their cars, i.e. their production is up to date, they have access to all important international market..., so if they loose money with faulty acquisitions (Chrysler et al.) they are still in a good position because their basis is still solid.
Fiat and other European car makers have the problem, that their basis is not solid and large scale changes cost a lot of money, IIRC VW numbers for their new programme was about 13 billion, therefore, 30 billion cash sounds a lot but equals only to two "shots". I still do not understand, what the Chrysler acquisisiton really changes for Fiat, which of Fiats and Chryslers basic problems are solved?
I actually agree with your message regarding Opel/GM vs. VW/Audi. I put them in the same league based upon sales numbers (I believe GM was claiming last year they had returned to worldwide number one).
Mostly, I would say there is something so sprawling about GM that still defies an overall long-term strategy: you are right.
And, aside from Toyota, the Japanese are quite vulnerable these days anyway.
FIAT's strategy, as I understand it, is:
1) Finish Chrysler turnaround with fully new models;
2) Finish integrating FIAT and Chrysler platforms to achieve economies of scale
3) Use Jeep to penetrate Russian and Asian markets (including new production facilities)
4) Expand in Latin America (particularly OUTSIDE of Brazil/Uruguay/Argentina where they are strongest) - BTW, FIAT is still ahead of VW in Brazil...
5) Get out of the small car niche (ghetto) where FIAT has been stuck, by moving upmarket: this includes abandoning attempts by FIAT to build bigger cars in favour of Chrysler vehicles.
6) Improve production quality in Italy by renovating the factories and pushing the unions to accept new work rules (among other things making it easier to fire non-performing employees): they are half-way on this.
7) Expand Alfa Romeo outside Europe, particularly in North America (scheduled for 2014): this includes development of an Alfa Romeo SUV with Jeep.
8) Expand market penetration of Maserati and Ferrari in Asia (profits from these exotic cars - about 10,000 sold - are already in excess of FIAT/Lancia/Alfa Romeo brands profits).
9) Bring total FIAT-Chrysler production to over 6 million to achieve suitable economies of scale
10) Keep cash on hand (even to the point of delaying new vehicle launches) to survive the liquidity crisis, avoid takeover attempts and be in a position to take advantage of other acquisition opportunities. This includes new alliances such as Mazda, or prying away Suzuki from VW.
11) Maintain the superiority of FIAT engine technology (i.e. low consumption and low carbon emissions).
The one thing "missing" are electric engines. FIAT has some projects, but these are mostly on the back burner (or low flame).
Another thing "missing" is northern Europe. Aside from trying to make a bid for Opel three years ago - Marchionne seems to believe that northern Europe is useless for FIAT. He is moving aggressively just about everywhere else in the world instead. One possible positive exception is the UK...
It is very odd how Non-Germans during this financial downturn are full of criticism towards German financial policies and steadily offer advice on what Germany should do: If your own country is in the shits, you should sort that out before giving others advice.
Even David Cameron has criticized Merkel for the lack of German spending and economic solidarity towards the failing European economies. Of course, Mr. Cameron does not offer any financial aid, just words of advice. Now, what if Cameron were the German Chancellor, would he then follow his own advice. Not likely: During the recent Icelandic financial crisis the British and the Dutch governments were arguably the debtors that treated Iceland in the most uncomprosing and stingy fashion.
Ahemm ... those comments are ment for home voters, not for Germans, they are free and indeed should ignore them. That is how politics works.
We had recently had our Canadian Prime Minister visiting Europe and lecturing Europeans on what should be doing. No one sane in Canada ever expected Europeans to listen to him as the matter of fact we had a good time making fun of his pointless lectures.
Big part of the problem is that the Germans treat everything, even politicians, way to seriously ... yes again. Monti said that ..., Cameron said that ..., this is not high school nobody cares what politicians are saying the proof is in the pudding.
I agree that action speaks louder than words, but to get action going, words are needed.
I am not a German and I have no deep insight into German culture, so I cannot say whether Germans treat politicians too seriously. To me it does however seem to be a bigger problem that politics and corruption have been treated with too little interest in many of the poorer countries of EU (the worst example of all may be the former leader of Italy, Berlusconi).
Hello!
1) It was an alliance between Canada and Italy that transformed the G5 into the G7 back in the mid-80's.
2) It was the "ethnic vote" of Italians - who voted "No" by 96% - that caused the failure of the Québec separatist referendum in 1995. At the time there were 400,000 Italo-Québécois (today only 250,000).
3) For decades, novice Italian diplomats assigned to NATO and the UN were told "When in doubt, vote with the Canadians". This because:
a) Canadian diplomats were native speakers in French and English, the two central diplomatic languages;
b) Canada was allied to all the same countries as Italy;
c) Canada nevertheless needed to defend its own margin of diplomatic independence vis-a-vis these countries, as did Italy;
d) Canada had no large military-industrial complex and imperial past to influence negatively its votes on international issues.
In other words, Stephen Harper - or any other Canadian Prime Minister - is always an honoured and carefully-listened-to guest in Rome.
MILOVAN MAKES UP A STORY (#1)
"It was an alliance between Canada and Italy that transformed the G5 into the G7 back in the mid-80's."
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It's not that I cared overly much about the history of the G6/7/8, but there's actually NOTHING factually correct in your statement:
"In 1975, French President Valéry Giscard d'Estaing invited the heads of government from West Germany, Italy, Japan, the United Kingdom and the United States to a summit [...], forming the Group of Six (G6). The following year, Canada joined the group at the behest of Germany's Chancellor Helmut Schmidt and U.S. President Gerald Ford and the group became the Group of Seven (G7)."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G8
No "mid-80s", no "Italian" role in including Canada . Instead it all happened in the mid-70s, and at the behest of West Germany and the US.
It must be hard being you.
(To be ctd.)
West Germany?
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
Do you always believe everything written in Wikipedia and Der Spiegel?
172 professors are rational and right.
It is not irrelevant to German selfishness.
Banking union is absurd.
Fiscal union is absurd.
Political union is nuts.
Euro bonds are absurd.
The Euro is nuts.
All of them are products of not pragmatic, realistic but idealistic, wishing well discourse.
So what will happen are led by an invisible hand.
Wow, I am impressed. Never experienced that what happens within German borders is of so much interest to the entire English-spoken world.
Seems that something has changed over the last years towards Germany.
BTW today over 200 Economist signed the letter including Economists from Austria and Switzerland.
The open letter is a heavy blow for the European politic for all German politicians which support the ESM. The public opinion is shifting towards opposing that more money is spent for banks. The fear and mistrust is growing, some politics become now aware of.
And they feel and experience that anger. Unfortunately, the most politicians are "bought". So they can continue their money spending politics for some years.
I know that Mrs. Merkel knows that this is a very critical point. And the behaving of Mr. Monti, Mr. Rajoy and Mr. Hollande made nearly impossible for Mrs. Merkel to save her face. But without the help of Germany's opposition - SPD - it would have been not that easy cheating and betraying Mrs. Merkel on points already agreed to. It was a very false game Mr. Hollande played. And it left the impression that France behaves not as a friend anymore. But the remarks of Mr. Monti made it impossible that anyone could believe it was a somehow balanced agreement.
The Bundesverfassungsgericht is going to judge on that matter. The outcome could massively affect the German European politics. I believe this is a turning point.
By the end of 2012 German is in recession. Than it is going to be interesting.
What speaks for Mrs. Merkel: All of the troika (SPD) are much more worser.
So I predict that the CDU will win again.
Everyones eyes are on Germany, because they hold the pin of a very large grenade. Watching them sit in explosion zone, apparently having good time and patting each other on the back ... this is just fascinating.
BTW your comment sounds very caustic much like Republican diatribes against Obama, accusation of treason included. This does not bode well for German and European governance, which so far was quite rational and civilized.
" It was a very false game Mr. Hollande played. And it left the impression that France behaves not as a friend anymore"
hmm say rather, not as a poodle anymore
For your info, Hollande is submissing the german fiscal pact to the french constitutional court too, and then repass it to the parliament, hmm don't expect that there will be a move before next autumn.
Germany isn't playing the general interest, but her lonely interest
It's time that the EZ countries realise it
All four agreed on the "growth pact". And suddenly on the date, as it was to be fixed in written - Italy and Spain - denied to agree to the same points as both did days before in Rom?
And what did Mr. Hollande who initiated that "growth pact"?
He changed the sides and argued for further concessions as regards the ESM.
That was against all European behavior the game those three played.
And the comments (Mr. Monti), afterwards, were not even better.
Ok. Thanks for the hint.
Once agreements were made - very important ones. That was around 10 years ago.
The German public was promised - THE MAASTRICHT TREATY as binding for all members of the euro zone: http://www.eurotreaties.com/maastrichtec.pdf
Just 10 years after, nothing is binding the Bundestag has agreed on and the German public was "willing" under these conditions to accept the euro. Actually, we Germans opposed the Euro - majoritarian. However, we negotiate about the same points today we already agreed in the Maastricht Treaty 10 years ago. Do you not think that something is going wrong with our partners?
What you feel as "caustic" remarks is anger and frustration - not only mine - about something that runs totally out of control. On the one side the European partners are blaming and insulting Mr. Merkel and our nation and on the other side they ask for money which we indeed not have.
However, the investments in our infrastructure is missing because there is no money left for schools, kindergardens.... we were told. But debts were made for banks even for German ones. Though, Germany itself is unable to provide balanced books / budgets. And now we take out debts for banks?!
I guess you are Canadian - but what comes with the ESM is something that runs absolutely out of democratic control - not only for Germany but for all partners. This Europe has turned into something I cannot recognize anymore. This is all so different from the Europe once we Germans were told. Democracy has failed and we give power to authorities which are not to be controlled by any (European) parliament or judge or whatever.
You read a lot about the Germans but I think you read very less what the people think of all that. This all is more about bail-outs of banks and deficits in current accounts than anything else. However, it is told Germany "saves the euro". We never ever saved any currency - because Germany and a few more saved banks. And we just provide more money, however, the structural problems in Spain, France, Italy, Portugal will not be solved with extra money. As regards their deficit in current accounts this is and will still be a unsolved objective. Those countries run deficits which are enormous.
What you read as "caustic" is a simmering atmosphere within Germany because people feel more and more betrayed by its politicians and by European partners.
And, please, just recognize that Germany is heading into recession by the end of 2012. For years now we were told this ends with this and that extra money for...
But the crises has not turned into spring but more and more into a stronger winter.
So the partner must take action and initiate reforms - deep reforms and stop asking for more money. When it comes to Italy - that country is able to handle its problems and debts itself. Italy does not need any money from outside as Mr. Monti has prepared for. Should this sound "caustic" - so please let Europe have billions of Canadian Dollars. Maybe, afterwards, you will understand the Germans and some more countries much better.
ah that, that is left in your throat !
ESM, ECB... aren't only Germany's propriety, but the 17 EZ countries'
hey, finish the reverences
"Germany isn't playing the general interest, but her lonely interest"
You rotten boiled fish.
Germany is financing Europe so you can oogle women's asses from cafes.
What changed in the last 2-3 years is that Southern Europe needs german money. And when these guys need your money they know how to"
1.kiss your arse - than
2.curse and spit on you - than
3."threat" you (which is actually a funny attempt to show muscles they don't have).
Everybody in Italy has an opinion about Germany, without knowing a damn about the country. What they do know is that they want you to pay for them.
This is why Monti and Rajoy behave the way they do.
I strongly hope that the German Court of Justice will reestablish some rationality and sense in this commedia dell'arte.
Yes, this is the problem. Germany is one very reluctant partner.
You cannot have a monetary union between so many dissimilar nations without it being a transfer union, or internal political tensions, will soon tear this whole thing apart.
It is also way past time for the Bundesbank to relinquish power to the EU's fledgling institutions, before they atrophy and become completely obsolete.
Germany needs to learn to lead, not just loan money with interest to earn a profit, and then deceptively argue that the German taxpayers are somehow footing the bill.
The strict constructionist argument, that the German constitution does not permit further integration, does not hold much weight with me either. The German constitution needs to be amended to facilitate much needed changes for all the monetary union's member nations to thrive and prosper.
Shrinking the public sector will not work, as the interest on the debts, and the depressed economic reality that deflationary pressured create, prevents private sector investment as well.
The current economic policy is a very unimaginative, a stall tactic at best. Only a German could buy into it, for obvious reasons.
When an expert renders an opinion that affects his own self interest he ceases be a an expert and becomes just another party.